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There! Back to road racer again!

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Post by j.p. on Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:58 pm

So I found out they were right. Tire manufacturers don't recommend high speed on knobbies.
They MELT at 120 KPH! Basically, 3 rides in to work on the highway (300 miles - total) and my 1/2 used knobbies turned into Italian racing 'Baldeenees'!



So it was up on the jacks and off with the Brigestones,



...and on with the mail order Shinkos



Now I'm certified to be a 80% road raced, and a 20% dirt hero!
Since it finally stopped raining today, I'm off to test 'em tomorrow morning!
I wonder where I can find a road that is 20% dirt??

PS... Smilo, you'll notice I still have not used the sink!
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Post by j.p. on Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:30 am

So perfect day, and I sneak out before anybody notices the lawn hasn't been cut, or that bush by the garden has not been trimmed yet!
Looking for that perfect 80% road isn't going to work, but I found a 100% 'off-road' road that will be a good test.



It's an ATV trail that skirts along the cliffs near Morien (in Cape Breton, natch...). Not something you'd take on a day when the Sow-west winds are howling!



Good mix of easy stuff with a few "I shouldn't be here' thrown in for good measure.



Excellent views (there is a HUGE underwater coal mine out in the distance - You can't see it of course, it's about 10 miles out and 500' down.), just stay away from the edge.

Anyways... Perfect test roads. Tires are excellent. Lean angles tested on the ride back home on the nearby wiggly asphalt bits. 150KM and I'd say the tires are nicely broken in!

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Post by Smilodon on Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:37 pm

In it's day, the big KLRs were the the heaviest thing on knobbies. Of course, now-a-days with "adventurer" tourers, it's a lightweight.

I imagine they have a lot of new "on/off road" tires for those big beasties that can handle that weight on a highway trip.

They'd probably last forever on a "lightweight" KLR...
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Post by j.p. on Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:08 am

Yeah! I was surprised at the number of offerings. The 'adventure riders' on some forums are always arguing/comparing tires for their BMWs and KTMs and Teneres and the like... I went cheap for this go. Seem to be mostly good reviews for the Shinko. Some of the other tires were twice the price, but I'm not headed to Alaska this fall!
I was just thinking though, how skinny the 130/80-17 rear looked compared to the tire on the Ninja. The conversion for the KLR tire works out to be actually wider than the 4.10 TT100 Dunlops on my CB650 (back in the 70's!). Cheaper too! I remember paying about $80 for a rear tire back in the day. That would be about $800 now, right?!? Rolling Eyes
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Post by Steady Eddy on Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:19 am

I love the look of that scenery there is something about a ride along the water's edge , love it and the adventure bikes like the KLR are far more appealing to me now that the Boss doesn't come with me on the bike any more , every year for the last 5 or more years I keep saying I ought to sell the Pan and get something like a KLR or even smaller , then I go out for a ride on the old girl and come back saying well maybe next year
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Post by j.p. on Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:32 am

I was just thinking about that this afternoon. I was riding back along a wide gravel road that connects two paved wiggly roads. Again, looking for the 80%!

Wait... there is a picture somewhere...



There... More water in the background, only this time it is a little lake, not the North Atlantic!

Anyways... There were several little trails off the main road that I was dying to go explore, but big pig 650 is just too much of a monster to go play in little trails without somebody around to help you out when you inevitably get into trouble.
So now I need to keep the Ninja and the 650, but also get a Sherpa 225, or maybe a KLX250...  Yeah... That's the solution Eddy! Keep the Pan and get a 250 to carry along in the panniers!
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Post by Steady Eddy on Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:25 am

Ha Ha Ha ye well the wife thinks you can put every thing and the kitchen sink in them boxes so why not ,

is the Shurpa what we call the Serow over here ?

that only came to us as a Jap import, a nice bike a friend has one , they hold their prices well over here
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Post by j.p. on Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:06 am

Yup. A Serow over there is an Yamaha XT250 over here, and a Sherpa is the Suzuki equivalent. Both bulletproof, air cooled, lightweight, and loads of fun. We used to put about 400 screws in each tire and ride them on the ice in the winter, then turn them back into 'go-fetch' bikes in the summer. I would love to have one as a 'spare', but then I would also have to have a 'spare' house to live in because I would be kicked out of this one. Maybe someday when she ain't watching, one might follow me home and I'd have to keep it. It works for cats... Wink
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Post by Steady Eddy on Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:21 am

we do get the XT 250 and 225 serow here mainly as gray imports , the Sherpa I just can't place , but something along those lines would be nice for local rides but if I am to sell the Pan I would want something that is good for longer road rides so really seeing as I have the DT stinker for local hooligan stuff and a C90 Cub project due on the road in the spring , what to get that is light comfortable and capable of doing up to 200 mile days I just can't make my mind , but am in no rush with having just spent on  new rubber and done the swing arm and a service on the Pan , I keep thinking why bother once out of the garage and the feet are on the pegs , man and machine are at one , and well capable of eating the miles , no probs , is the Grass really that much Greener on the other side ??
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Post by j.p. on Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:28 am

Here you go... Extinct now though. I think last ones were in 2010 or so, but you see them reasonably often on the 'used' circuit. Usually quickly bought up by the kid brother or something so you've got to be quick. Consider them to be a 'grown up' Honda 90. 225CC so it sounds like what you guys call a Serow.



A little small for the highways around here, but perfect for back lanes and the occasional dirt road.
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Post by Steady Eddy on Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:20 pm

Ye think what we have is the Yamaha 225 serow that got upgraded to a 250 for the later run of its life , that was never an official import , and we had the Suzuki version of it that was labled here as the DR that was in 125 - 250 -350 - 700 , 850 and not sure think there was even a 600 kicking about , I was always a bit confused as why so many sizes . But the 250 and 350 did have a good following, but as you say bit small for the freeways, and it is that side of life that I could do with changing ,
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Post by j.p. on Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:47 am

Yup. Yamahas are still XT's here, but I think there is only a 250 left. Suzukis are DR and the 650 version is an air cooled version of the KLR but a bit shorter on the inseam (Tim has one). Kawasakis are branded KLX then, and of course, Hondas stick with XL and XR. It just seems to be the names that get changed. Serow = Sherpa (?), Pans in Europe never got a name over here and were just referred to as ST1300, Suzuki650GSF's were not called Bandits, Honda VTR1000 were not called Firestorms and 699s were not known as Hornets.
Marketing men must laugh and think it's all a joke!

The cool thing I liked about the Sherpa was the big wheel/tight fender front end that looked more like a trials bike than a 'scrambler'. More honest, you know? 99% of them never went near a mud puddle!
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Post by j.p. on Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:15 am

Getting a fair amount of miles on the KLR after the tire transplant. Mostly back and forth to work tho', so I had great hopes for vacation and some REAL traveling. Not to be so far! Spent much time moving rocks and building decks and cutting back the weed jungle. I'm a little worried about looming retirement and all that entails. I'll need a schedule!
Did manage a little jaunt to track the old railroad bed from the coal mines to the shipping port. This was abandoned in the 1970's, so is much overgrown, but the ATVers and Snowmobilers do work on it from time to time.


Managed to surprise a bunch of 4 wheelers about 1/2 hour into the deep-dark woods...



Don't think they were ready for a street bike in that far.

Testing out a new GoPro mount on the way home. $10 selfie stick and 15 minutes soldering. Shows promise...

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Post by Smilodon on Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:01 am

Next, it'll be a Rossi-style "gyro"-cam... Smile
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Post by j.p. on Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:32 pm

Hmmm... 'Gyro' you say, eh??

Lesseee... My reciprocal saw bust the other day, and it has some levers and a crank thing...
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Post by Steady Eddy on Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:57 am

Where there is a will there is a way , I am still learning how to switch the camera on and trying to remember to take the lens cover off
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